Name: Brian L.
Seriously. They do that in San Diego all the time.
They must take bets for how many times someone comes and yanks on the locked doors.
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Thursday 06th of August 2009 2:53 am
Seriously. They do that in San Diego all the time.
They must take bets for how many times someone comes and yanks on the locked doors. |
We have laws banning this sort of thing in Arizona. |
I always thought it was to prevent beer runs. I think the locked door is always on the side where the alcohol is in the
supermarket. Haven't tested this theory. |
When I lived in Fort Wayne, IN they actually had a sign outside one of the Walmarts there that told when they closed the
one entrance and when it would reopen, and still people would walk over towards that way... |
You put those carts in front of the unlocked doors, didn't you, Rob. Tell the truth. |
In North Korea, not only do they lock the doors, but if you try to go into the locked doors, they arrest you, accuse you
of being a spy, and hold you hostage until Bill Clinton comes over to trade his daughter for you. |
The market I go to closes one door at night, but it's always the same door so if you go there semi-regularly, you would
know. It would drive me mad if they changed it up all the time. |
Here in TX the local neighborhood walmart does that. They lock the door closet to the grocery stuff and leave the one by
the beer open for some reason. |
I suspect that the skeleton crew operating the store at night cannot maintain security if there are too many open doors.
And, the people that are working at night tend to be stocking shelves.
Rob, the reason they haven't addressed this: they just don't care. You could buy aluminum foil for wrapping your car
at 3 a.m., or you could think the place closed and go home empty handed. It wouldn't make any difference to the night
crew. |
Here in St. Louis it's always the same door that is locked every time. They have it noted on the signs "This entrance
locked 11pm - 6am" or whatever the hours are. So you always know which one will be open during the night. |
Think a locked grocery store entrance is fishy? Snitch on them by emailing flag@whitehouse.gov. |
A sign would be a good idea. They probably can't block the exit with shopping carts because of fire evacuation laws.
The doors might still be opened from the inside in case of fire or other emergency. And yeah, they probably just don't
care. |
THey don't actually need to BLOCK the doors with the shopping carts, but just put the carts in a visible position in
front of the doors. A line of them perpendicular to the doors would be very visible from the parking lot, and would not
block any emergency exit. |
Good idea, but you're asking the grocery store's night crew to care. Ain't happening! Anyone who DOES care enough
is obviously bound for bigger and better things, and they'll be promoted to day shift assistant manager before long. |
They do the same thing in Upstate New York just to annoy the crap out of people. |
I used to work at a 24 hour WalMart that locked one entrance at 11pm. They used to put a row of carts in front of the
door to indicate such; however, we got fined for it. Apparently, they local fire marshal felt it'd impede people
leaving the store if there was a fire, so we had to stop putting carts there. The doors remained locked at night,
though. |
You should put a couple carts in front of the unlocked doors and watch the confusion. |
I've seen that here in PA - it certainly isn't about the beer runs, since grocery stores can't carry alcohol. (PA
alcohol laws are a whole 'nother story.) I think it's just annoying. |
Shopping at night is weird. |
In my country we plant explosives in front of the locked doors. |
You know what else impedes the exit from the building? The LOCKED DOORS. |
Isn't locking one of the entrances probably a fire code violation in most jurisdictions? |
Simple solution: blow it up. |
Locking entrances is a violation of fire codes when the business is open. |
All you really have to do is look at what side of the parking lot most of the cars are parked on. |
Good idea. But unfortunately I doubt it will ever happen. |
These doors get locked for access from the outside, but are still operable from the inside. No violation of fire codes.
Stacking carts in front of an egress is a violation, though.
Us lazy Americans should just take the walk to the other entrance in stride and thank the store for encouraging the
extra exercise... |
Looking at the parked cars is a good idea, but look at the top photo, are there more cars on the unlocked side? Also,
there are often other businesses around, such as a blockbuster video or bank w/ATM machine, which make the car
distribution a muddled factor.
And Fat Jim, are you telling me that these locked doors can be opened from the inside by customers fleeing a fire? |
Why do you have to park that near to the door? Doors are not that far apart. Sure it'll be irritating to notice that
the door you've tried is locked and simple sign "use the other door" would be easy. You specially mentioned parking
your car near the door. No one's that lazy. I park further away from the entrance so other cars are not near my
paintjob. |
An easy solution is to just walk the 50 feet to the unlocked door you lazy lug you. |
anything the grocery store can do to get people walking alone at night is a positive thing. |
How strange. Here in the UK there's never more than one entrance to a supermarket - though often a second exit which
is locked outside normal hours. |
I can honestly say I have never even seen a supermarket with two entrances. Well, not a purpose built one.
What's the point? |
The Wal-Mart in West Sacramento does this too! Not only to they prevent an entrance, but also an exit. It's a million
times worse if you park on the wrong side of the building at this Wal-Mart because you have to walk 1/4 mile to the
other side.
Gav, Not uncommon at all in the US because most grocery stores are quite large in comparison to other countries,
especially where real estate is at a premium.
Wal-Mart for example, has a store in West Sacramento,California that is 237,000 square feet in size - It actually has 4
entrances.
This particular Safeway Grocery store is probably around the 19,000 square foot size. Which about average.
-Ant |
I used to work at a Safeway. One door was locked at night because there were very few employees there at night and only
one door had a security camera on the outside. Also, the locked door was closer to the alcohol. I had to redirect dozens
of customers to the unlocked door every night I was there. |
I'm handicapped. The last store I visited like this decided to lock the doors closest to the handicapped parking spots
without indications. I now shop at a different store. |
Hello, my name is Barack Hussein Obama, I was born in Kenya... no wait, Hawaii! |
Rob, as for doors being able to open from the inside but not the outside, I worked at a store with automatic doors. The
doors had three settings: off, one way, and two-way. Once closing hit, we switched the doors to one-way (people could
leave but not enter). Once all the customers were gone, the doors were switched off, but the physical lock wasn't
engaged until we were leaving, or if there was an overnight crew, they flipped the lock once the regulars were gone.
And Arizona may have laws, but every grocery store I've gone to late at night, that has two entrances, locks one after
dark. |
THE ANSWER: Trust local wisdom. Park on the side of the store where all of the other cars are congregating. |
A corollary: why do many stores with double-doors leave one side locked? You know, so you can run into it or jerk on it
fruitlessly and look like an idiot, before you step over to the other one to open it instead? If you are very lucky
there might be a sticker indicating that they've done this, but never any actual reason why.
Why even have a double-door if it's always half-disabled? |
Oh hell, my local Home Depot has taken to doing this during the day!
They used to have three entrances but they've closed it down to one entrance, two exit-only. A good number of
customers simply pry the exit doors open with their hands. |
To Rob- Yes, the doors are part of the required egress for the store. As long as the store is occupied, they must be
operable from the inside even when locked from the outside. |
Is this really that big of a problem? Each store always locks the same doors, so if is your neighborhood store you
should know, unless you smoked so much pot you can't remember. |
Whenever I'm in a WalMart parking lot, I make the assumption that ALL the doors are locked, even during regular
business hours. Then, with a clearer conscience, I drive off and conduct my business somewhere else. |
Here is what I don't need: A shoppers card
Here is what I need: A fucking "LOCKED" sign that I can see from the parking lot. |
In Soviet Russia, both doors locked always. |
I'm a cart pusher at my local 24hr grocery store and it annoys me and the other cart pushers when customers ask us why
the door is lock when there is clearly a large sign in front of it that says "please use the other entrance after
10pm." The people who shop at night are stupid. |
The doors are locked for people like me who tend to forget to pay for certain items that somehow end up in my purse. It
is especially prevalent at night, since my sleeping meds don't really seem to work anymore. Hee! |
We have this goin' on at our local grocery store in St. Paul, but they do put up a sign because we're Minnesota Nice
like that. |
here in the midwest we have a chain of superstores called Meijer, I used to work for one. One night someone walked out
with a thousand dollars worth of ipods, shortly after that they started locking the doors on the non-grocery side at
11pm, and they put up signs that cover the whole doors with big red letters saying they're closed, you can see them as
soon as you enter the parking lot. |
Here we simply irradiate the locked door, using design elements similar to Chernobyl coolant towers. It really works! |
Of course the first one is open, since they still have watermelons outside. |
I agree that watermelon or other fruit stands outside the entrance would be the most reliable predictor of the open
door. Whereas fruit in front of a locked door would be ripe for the taking, fruit near an open door will be easier for
the clerks (probably positioned near the open door) to watch for, and hypothetically apprehend the shoplifter. |
For everyone complaining about a latched door being a fire hazard? About a year before one of the grocery stores in my
town went out of buisness they locked one entrance permanently and stacked cases of beer to create a wall in front of
it. There's your fire hazard. |
Why, I be from Jamaica mon. 'Ere in Zion the market is puffin' 25 hours a day. |
In Soviet Russia entrance locks you. |
Many of the late night stores around here (twin cities) stack a long row of carts in front of one entrance at night. I
think as long as they're far enough away from the entrance as to not actually block a quick exit, it wouldn't violate
fire codes. Either that or Minnesota fire marshalls are just less anal about people burning to death. |
It is Bush's fault this is happening. I am thinking about filming a documentary on how entrances should be blocked
unlike the borders of the USA. |
Molly 0. Jennifer 1. Contrary to Molly's statement, locking one grocery store door at night is not only legal but it is
illegal NOT to have one entrance set as exit-only. As per the Expressing After Dark Homophobia of Arizonans Through
Silly Legislation Act of 2005. Our sheriff attempted to sponsor the legislation before realizing he didn't have the
authority too. |
wow. lots of trolls on here today! |
It depends on the store it seems, my local Wal-Mart locks the doors closer to the pharmacy, the other set leads right
into the grocery isle. I guess they figure most people shopping at midnight have the munchies. Safeway here it does
seem to be on the side opposite of the beer and wine. One thing I have noticed (but no idea if this is consistant),
usually the bakery and produce sections are on the opposite side of the booze, and thus is the open side. SO...maybe if
you can see the bakery and/or produce section through the door, it's most likely the unlocked one? |
I purposely lock random sides. Then when people have it figured out I just lock one door on either side. You know: just
to keep things lively! |
Typically they keep the doors near the registers open at night. Unless you live in some backwater part of the world and
they can't afford to properly lay out a building's entrances and exits. |
I am a supermarket door. Your insignificant open door identification issues mean nothing. Go and do something useful. |
I just quit working at the neighborhood grocery store, but when we locked the door, we would put carts in front as you
suggested. Then when people would come up to that door, they would grab the carts, move them out of the way, try the
doors, then get frustrated they'd chosen the wrong one, and take a cart with them to use once they walked round the
other side. But locking one set is definitely for security purposes, as we'd lock the one we didn't face. |
We place mercenaries INSIDE the locked doors. Only once in a while do we get to shoot at 'trespassers' as they
attempt to gain access through locked doors. Our manager told us that on every new moon we can take 'pot shots' at
people entering on the other side. Unite all grocery rebels! |
1) Why does a supermarket need more than one entrance?
2) Why is walking to the other door such a major problem? It's not that far. OK sure, disabled people might have more
of a problem, but for the average citizen? |
It not that walking is a problem. Its the principle of the matter. If you have doors for your business that allow access
and they mysteriously get locked for no apparent reason it is extremely annoying when you are trying to quickly get what
you need.
As for all you store wisenheimer's complaining about people asking about locked doors, you fail to answer the question
of WHY are the doors locked. Since they allow egress they certainly don't lock the doors to prevent shoplifting. So
why irritate people by forcing them to change direction for no good reason.
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Use a proximity app:
When you're in Wal-Mart #4214 parking lot and it's between 10:30PM and 6:00AM then buzz the phone to let them know
which door |
I hate when they lock the bathrooms at night. If you don't know the store well and you see a restroom sign in the
distance and get there then there is a note on the door. You would never see it unless you are near it. |
anyway, I close to china. I have not read other man comment. I say set door on fire. No one enter. |
anyway, I close to china. I have not read other man comment. I say set door on fire. No one enter. |
Here in NYC our supermarkets only have one entrance, so it's never a problem. Of course, 14 of our supermarkets could
fit into a typical sized store elsewhere. |
Easy to figure out. Look for where cars in the back of the lot are parked. Those will be the employee's cars, and they
will typically park near the entrance/exit that is always open. |
It's usually on the grocery side of a super wal-mart. |
Hovercraft |
All the registers usually face the same way.
The locked door is the one behind the cashiers' backs. |