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Are there ANY products which are completely forbidden on ebay?
It looks like a Kirby SUCKS!
Illegal to *buy* a Kirby on eBay? I'm skeptical. I can see how Kirby might have it in your buyer's
agreement that you can't SELL it anywhere, but unless they've paid off Congress to an alarming
degree, how would they have made it illegal to BUY one?
Nice one Rob! We have the same problems with Kirby sellers here in the UK, my mum called me from
the bathroom to come over to her house and sling one of these idiot out!
If you buy Kirby off e-bay, then there is proof of ownership through the transaction. If Kirby
tries to come and confiscate the vacuum because "it's stolen," get a good lawyer and tell them to
suck it.
I'm sure the police have better things to do than chasing people who buy vacuum cleaners off of
ebay. The only way Kirby could bring charges against you is if they say you stole it directly from
them. But since you bought it from the previous owner wouldn't the paper work show that it was
purchased from Kirby and not stolen. I dont think Kirby can press charges on behalf of a 3rd
party. How is this any different than if I bought it from a garage sale, or maybe my dad gave me
his Kirby.
Why is it that all Kirbys look as though they were designed in the '50s?
I call bull on getting in trouble for buying a Kirby vacuum on Ebay. As long as you are not buying
stolen merchandise and it is obvious that it is stolen, they can't charge you with felony theft.
If the vacuum is registered to John Smith, he sells it on Ebay, I buy it from him, there is chain
of custody there. He can prove ownership and so can I through the Ebay transaction. And you can't
just make buying an item on ebay "illegal". That would mean that someone passed a law or found a
way to get it covered under an existing law. Nowhere in the California Penal Code can I find
anything that prohibits the purchase of a Kirby vacuum cleaner on Ebay, UNLESS it is a stolen item.
In which case it is up to the DA to prosecute for larceny or possession of stolen property if they
have enough evidence to prove that I knew the item was stolen. Otherwise they are just going to
give the item back to the person/company that can prove ownership.
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
I don't know anything about Kirby (other than what I've read at your find web site), but the bit
about it being illegal to buy a Kirby vacuum on eBay must just be another one of their lies. In the
United States, if you have legally acquired an item (like a vacuum cleaner), it then belongs to you
and the manufacturer or vendor no longer has any legal control over it, and it is yours to do with
as you please, including selling it to a third party. This is called the First-sale Doctrine, and
Wikipedia has a good article about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine_%28patent%29
HAHAHAHA!!! Illegal to buy a Kirby vacuum on eBay? Who are the stoners writing in to this site?
Look, if Person A spent good money on a product and no longer needs it, it is perfectly legal for
Person A to sell or trade that item to Person B. The item isn't stolen and there will be no
"felony theft charges". I bought a Kirby vacuum on eBay and about a year later had it serviced by
Kirby for a transmission issue. (yes, these effin' things have transmissions) My vacuum was
repaired and returned to me for free. No prob. Sounds like some of these Kirby salesmen are
buying their own company's hype.
::clears throat::
"I boght a Kirbey vaccum cleaner off ebay and the police came to my house about 10 minutes after i
payed on paypal. DONT USE PAYPAL THEY REPORT YOU TO THE POLICE I am living proof and spent 30 days
in jail and had to pay 5 THOUSAND DOLLARS to Kirbey as a fine and my wife left me and now I dont
even hav a vaccum cleaner!!!!!!"
::bows::
Fantastic as always, Rob. You called them on their BS and made good points whilst making me chuckle
all the while. Keep it up.
A company can not declare that reselling their product is illegal. If I buy their stupid vacuum,
it's mine, and I will sell it on ebay if I wish.
This reminds me of Telemarketers, which I HATE. Reason one: They call you, trying to get you to
donate to a charitable cause, i.e. The Veterans Fund or whatever. Then when you politely refuse,
they guilt you: "These young men fight and die for your freedom!" Regardless of the fact that I
have just lost a cousin in Iraq. Yes, I KNOW that these young men die for my freedom. And I've paid
the ultimate price: A loved one. These people must have no hearts to be able to do a job like this.
What if someone was terribly maimed by a Kirby and these butt heads just waltzed in and was like
"These cleaners suck up dirt for your cleanliness!" Hm..ok, bad analogy. But...I guess I just had
to tell you story about the crappy people calling me trying to guilt me when I have cousins that
are fighting for my freedom and one that died. Thanks, jerk faces.
Interesting how cheap these things are going for on EBay. Also, if it's not stolen, I don't know how
that "wassup" guy can say it's illegal to sell a Kirby if you own it.
signed Frankie
I seriously doubt that it's "illegal" to buy a Kirby vacuum cleaner on eBay. They may not honor the
warranty, but the cops are not going to come knocking on your door because you bought something
second-hand.
This is the United States of America. You don't have to prove that you didn't steal something.
The authorities have to prove that you did.
dude, you don't even have to go on eBay, you can easily get one craigslist:
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=kirby
I'm glad I bought my Eureka for $50 at Target. Still working after 6 years!
My dad once bought a Kirby vacuum when I was a kid (the way I remember it, it cost $1400). You're
right; Mom's response was a real horrorshow.
"P.S. : It's illegal to buy a Kirby vacuum on ebay." -Gimme a break-
I still remember the day in 1979 when my newly-pregnant best friend asked me to hang around while
she broke the news to her barely-employed husband that she just spent $600 they didn't have on a
Kirby vacuum. I thought he was going to cry when she told him. I hope that salesman is burning in
hell.
We don't have to deal with this jizz in England. Luke. xx
I sold a Kirby I bought at Goodwill for $8 on ebay for $80, I did clean it up and pack it nicely
however. Now I guess I will be joining Paris, in jail. Please send police right over, I have been
a bad man.
What, no new CAPTCHAs on the comments?
The idea that Kirby treats all used machines as stolen property (even if they have no evidence of
this) adds an interesting twist to this story. I think you should call Kirby and give them your
name, and say you bought a used Kirby and you want to know how much it would cost to have it
repaired to see what they say. If you get them on tape threatening to call the police, they're
busted.
rob, you're a fucking super hero
Yeah that's total BS about not being able to sell a Kirby on ebay. I'm not a practicing attorney,
but I did put in the full 3 years at law school, and it is pretty clear that once you own personal
property, it is yours. Can you imagine what kind of country we would live in if you couldn't sell
your own property? Even if Kirby "leases" it to you or requires the seller to stipulate that they
won't sell it (all valid), then the buyer sure as hell isn't going to get busted for it.
I can freakin' but a Dyson for a quarter of what you pay for a Kirby. Dyson isn't cloaked in all
that Mason/Scientology cloak & dagger bullsh*t either. This company preys on the weak minded and
weak willed. They should be ashamed.
The "hot kirby" bit is probably just what they tell the sales associates. It is not a crime to
purchase used goods, even "registered" vacuum cleaners.
Hello Rob - You know, after some dedicated searching, I can't find much to back up the police and
fine stories for those folk who sold or bought Kirby vacuums on eBay. Kirby appears to punish
distributors who sell items on eBay, but I find no online evidence for buyers. Do you have
anything to add to this story? Thanks - Eric in Seattle-ish
Quoted from the Kirby wesbite:
"In an effort to protect you, the consumer, The Kirby Company aggressively investigates
unauthorized facilities or sites and pursues appropriate action to assure that your decision to
purchase a SENTRIA system is based upon accurate and truthful information."
http://www.kirby.com/Portals/0/inhomeonly.html
I bought my 50 year old Kirby at a garage sale. They can have it when they pry it from my cold dead
hands!
chriso
i feel bad for the guys that have to use a customer bathroom...i wouldnt let them
FUCK YOU COCKERHAM
shortly after I read your original article, a kirby saleswoman came to the door and started in the
whole pitch line...
I started to crack up and as she was saying "which room would you like me to clean" i told her I
wasn't interested, but thanks anyway... I swear her head was going to explode. She was mumbling and
I could tell she had a long day (it was 8:30 at night)and I almost felt sorry for her, but I had no
interest in waisting time on a 2500 machine I had no intention on buying.
Why do you have to register for a vacuum cleaner, and why is it ilelgal to sell on e-bay? It would
void the warranty so the buyer wouldn't profit from the company anwyay. Do the sellers tell you you
can't ever sell it?
Charged with a felony for buying a Kirby on eBay? Bullshit. I bet it's never happened. Who pressed
charges? Kirby can't, because they are not the owner of the vacuum. The registered owner isn't,
because it's obvious that they packed it up and sent it to the new "owner". Our city council tried
to ban Kirby salesman but couldn't work through the legal barriers, but Kirby and door-to-door
sales people are definitely closely watched by our local police. Make sure those seat belts are
buckled, turn signals used, etc.!
Kirby's been calling my home since I got registered to be married. anyone notice they do that? My
friend sold Kirby for like a week once, his parents bought one (previous Kirby owners) and where
then shocked to see that the next person he visited where offered a better deal.
I like these articles.
I had someone come by last year and as soon as I heard the word KIRBY I remembered your site, and
told them to get lost.
OK, I'm not a lawyer, but I did just graduate from law school, and I'm currently taking Bar/Bri to
actually learn the law before I take the Bar in July; I can't imagine how it could be a
crime/felony for someone to resell the Kirby. (Though it would void the warranties.) Property is
freely transferable, and unless you don't actually buy a Kirby, but just a license to use it, then
there's no way this would happen. (Even if it was a license, I doubt anything could happen to the
buyer, besides just forfeiting the Kirby). In fact, it might not even come to that. I *know* that
if one is a good faith purchaser for value from a merchant that deals in goods of the kind (like a
vacuum cleaner salesman on Ebay), then you're allowed to retain title and possession of the item
even against whomever the true owner is. (The example in our review course is someone giving a
watch to a jeweler to repair, who then sells it to a third party. The 3rd party can retain
possession even against the original owner, who can only recover from the jeweler. The policy is
one to encourage purchases, people will be overly cautious if they have to worry about having their
purchases taken away. Of course this doesn't apply to stolen goods, and I could explain why, but I
doubt you've read this far anyway... haha)
More than armored personnel carrier, they look like old school Cylons.
FYI: the "felony theft charges" thing is laughable. In fact, if a company told the public that they
would be charged with a felony for exercising their property rights to resell their personal
property, they would be running a risk of being brought up on racketeering charges.
I was touched by famous (or rather infamous) “Kirby sales guys” last evening. I thought I was
getting some kind of sales demo for carpet cleaning services, till I saw the Kirby box...A "Free -
No obligation 15 minutes” demo ended up in a 2.5 hours ordeal. Although I realized that it is a
good product, but I had no intention of spontaneously spending a grand on something I haven't done
any research on. And after I did my research today, I am glad I did not buy one. Check out this URL
you will understand why!
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/in_home/kirby.htm
If any of you are from Fremont CA, watch out they will come by your house sooner or later...
Fremont, CA
June 07, 2008
Regarding Kirby...they convinced me to leave the machine at my home until my husband returned from
his business trip since that was w/in the 3 day window of time I could cancel the purchase
agreement, I cancelled the next day b/c it is too heavy and complicated and no way would my husband
agree to a $1400 vacuum, I'm in Ohio and they're in Michigan, do salespeople take the time to pick
up unwanted vacuums? Thankfully they didn't take my Hoover "trade-in" even though I am about ready
to replace it. I called and cancelled w/ the financing company, mailed my signed cancelled
purchase, and left a message w/ the saleswoman, telling her my preferred evening for them to pick
it up. I understand they have 20 days, but considering how pushy they were, I am not going to sit
at my home 24/7 until then waiting for them to come by for their Kirby Sentria.
This movie - 'American Strays' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115531/ - is the reason why I hope for a
Kirby salesman to someday knock on my door.
What is all this BS about "illegal to sell on eBay" in these emails you are getting? Can you clear
this up a bit?
Tis not illegal to buy second-hand Kirbys, not in the USA. Just more propaganda. Kirby may not honor
any warranties, but there's a little something called the "presumption of innocence" in our land
which implies that the accused is innocent until otherwise proven. Moreso, the adage "possession is
nine-tenths of the law" also applies - can you prove you own your television set? Microwave? Shoes?
So much disinformation, so little time.
3rv3v
yeah
That's almost (but not quite) as ridiculous as software EULAs.
A couple years ago, I fell for it and bought a Kirby (in my defense I will say that I really like to
vacuum). I do think they but something in the powder they use for a demonstration that makes you
lose all common sense. But back to the point of my story. In Utah they have a law that if someone
comes door-to-door selling something you have three days to change your mind. Well in the morning
(when their magic dust wore off) I had changed my mind. My husband took the Kirby back and it was
not a pleasant experience. First they told him he couldn't return it. Then they tried to make him
feel guilty by telling him our salesman would get in trouble. When they realized that none of it
would work. They were just plain asses about the whole thing. And treated my husband really badly
overall.
How do we stop this maddness? Young people are being used to sell a product in hopes of making some
money and they are just being used?
Is it really illegal to buy a Kirby on ebay?
"My friend's cousin bought a KirbyGSix on ebay, and the police were at his home less than 24 hours
later."
Oh, come on. Puh-leeze! How full of holes is that story? So, someone is sitting on their
watching Ebay auctions on Kirbys, just waiting for some unsuspecting buyer to pounce on? How
exactly does that work? And, presumably, since you don't know the auction winner until the last
minute, this would be the FBI or some other federal organization? Or maybe it was INTERPOL! Then,
after the auction is won, the FBI quickly calls Ebay and finds out the identity of the winning
bidder. They then contact the local police, who drop everything to knock down the door of the
sinister Kirby-buyer. Uh huh, yep. That makes sense.
Sounds like a story submitted by either Kirby itself, or someone who bought a Kirby at full retail
price and is p.o.'d that they're for sale on Ebay for half price.
Hi Rob!
One of those Kirby guys showed up at my door yesterday with his "free" carpet cleaning offer.
Thanks to you and your site, I was able to send him politely on his way. And I was pleasant and
polite, also knowing that the poor guy might be a victim as in your "Kirby recruiting" page. So I
avoided being taken for a sap AND was able to be compassionate at the same time. Thanks!
Chris
chrisanders.com (around, near, at) gmail.com
i really pissed off a kirby salesman a while back.
told him my ladyfriend down the street would love to have one but she wanted the same deal i got on
mine.
i then sow him the kirby i bought from the local junker for $5.just needed a belt.his face got red
and he tried to continue his salespitch.
then told him of the g8 i fished out of the shop dumpster and put a new belt on.
finally a grabbed my laptop and hit him with a completed item search on ebay.hmmm seems the market
value of this $2000 vacuum is about $300!
he left mumbling you motherfucker and squeeled tires leaving.you could hear the cargo of his van
slide back and smack the back doors.perhaps he will have a "scratch and dent" sale at the next
stop?
I had a kirby salesman come to my apartment one night and offer to do a free cleaning. He said it
would take no longer than an hour and a half- it was already 8:30 at night!! My husband was in Iraq
and there was no way I was going to let some strange man into my home that late, especially after
reading all the introductory stories on this site. It was all I could do to keep from laughing in
his face and to not tell him I knew all about the joys of the kirby company....
Does anybody know what Kirby does with the trade in Vacuums?
After selling My Daughter a 1800.00 vacuum, Kirby now wants out of the
contract, and has told my Daughter they cannot return their 8 month old
400.00 Kenmore, because they have destroyed it already.
If anyone has the answer to this, Please email me at Coffeemug1@comcast.net
Jackie
It is NOT illegal to buy a Kirby on ebay. It is illegal to buy a STOLEN Kirby on ebay. Once
someone purchases something, it is theirs to do with what they will, and that includes selling it.
The person who buys it has done nothing illegal either.
It is also not a felony to not have a warranty for a vacuum cleaner. Nobody will arrest you for
not keeping the reciepts for every frickin' thing you own. That's absurd. I had my diamond ring
repaired without proof of ownership and nobody arrested me, and it's worth way the hell more than a
vacuum cleaner. People need to get a grip and try thinking before saying things.
:) Rima
hsdaadadg
I just received my first Kirby salesman visit today. Thanks to your site, I knew exactly what to
do.
Kevin
i don't like the kirby peoples (or who i think are kirby people) because i have hardwood floors and
they peer into my house as if to case it for later unauthorized access, just to see what they can
zap.
A simple remedy to help protect ones-self from possible 'prosecution' should be asking/requiring the
seller of the now 'used' Kirby to sign a 'bill of sale'.
This bill of sale shows that the original owner of the vacuum is selling you property for
compensation.
It indicates the sale date, the sellers name and the new buyers name, along with the amount paid
for said property.
You are now the rightful owner of the vacuum ('property').
AFter Kirby sells a brand new vacuum to a client/customer, they have NO rights to its 'resale' to a
second private party - unless maybe some kind of clause is in 'fine print' in the sales contract
stating otherwise, which i can't imagine any court would uphold.
I can't possibly imagine why anyone would buy one of these from ebay or anywhere else. I see them at
yard sales for $20 and have never gotten one.
I have a nutone central vac, from ebay but new.
Have a hose upstairs and one downstairs, not even $700 for the whole works if I remember correctly.
5 inlets which includes the one under the cabinet toe kick - for sweep ups in the kitchen.
The can is in the basement - so who cares about the filter, it goes in the basement. the 30' hose
is light, reaches everywhere, and we empty the huge bag every 4 months or so. AND the best part is
you can't hear it. This is the only way to go if you can install the tubes. forget all these
gimmicky crap vacuums, kirby, rainbow, elux, oreck, etc. You know why they have a 40 year warranty?
if you call anytime after 3 years the ahole pushy salesman and his mgr will con you into a new one,
so you are a customer for 40 years. The elux guy picks up balls and embarrasses you with dirt in
your bed, the rainbow only needs a little dirt to make mud and make you look like a slob unless you
buy it. The stupid kirby looks like an HG Wells Victorian steampunk antique.
Hi I was hired (I guess you'd say) yesterday by kirby. It was just like one of the other letters I
read. I called the number and asked what it was and what the hours were. They quickly changed the
subject by telling me that they needed to ask me a few questions first to see if I qualified for an
interview. So they asked me some questions and by the time they were done I had forgotten about my
original questions. So here I am a "employee" of kirby but I'm the type of person who looks up
everything on the internet and found your site... So I guess my question is this.... they said I am
hired on at 400 a week take home (they don't tax) but after some of the stuff I have read I am
starting to worry that maybe it's not such a great job after all. Do they really not pay you
anything at all? They said regardless of wether we make our sells we are gaurenteed to take home
the 400 a week... is that true? If someone could please email me at debieann@hotmail.com and fill
me in on my wonderful new job that would be greatly appriciated.
Thanks
Debie
I am laughing my butt off hearing these people talk about how it's illegal to buy Kirby vacuums on
ebay. My father, a reputable vacuum salesman that was a Factory Distributor for Kirby at one time
now sells refurbished Kirby vacuums out of his shop. You wanna know where he gets them?? From
Kirby dealers who take them in for trade, from finance companies who have repo'ed them, and, i'm
serious about this, pawn shops. He takes them apart, repairs them, buffs them, puts on new bumpers,
wheels, etc., and sells them. It's all perfectly legal. We happen to have two Factory Distributors
in the town that I'm in, and one happens to be on the same highway as us, and I have had people call
me thinking that we were the Kirby company and they were complaining about the sales tactics of the
salesmen.The salesmen are young, hungry, desperate, and punks. The Kirby is a good vacuum but
they're getting a bad reputation because of the people their "independent" distributors employ.
Hail, hail the gang's all here!
Can we sell a Kirby,
YES, we'll sell a Kirby!
I grew up hearing the guys sing this song and others at their meetings. Back when I was a girl,
people were a bit nicer. Good luck with your website.
can suck my big blacck dick
can suck my big blacck dick
I do have one that was left in a house that we purchased. I was looking for somewhere on the web to
perhaps purchase an operating manual, becuase there are so may parts that I don't know what to do
with. But now I am afraid to contact Kirby. I didn't steal it, it was in the house that we
bought! Any ideas of how I can get the instruction book?
Just want to correct those who are saying it is illegal to purchase a Kirby off e-bay. It is
absolutely legal to purchase a Kirby off e-bay. The fact is, there are things that are illegal to
purchase on e-bay, and e-bay aggressively blocks those items. As a long time seller, I can tell
you e-bay is quite careful about specific types of items... but the Kirby has its own category, it
was specifically added and encouraged to be sold. There will be no felony charges or fines... you
should remove the obvious fake posts from Kirby reps.
I got a kirby the other day, and i found that it was well worth the money. maybe you like to live in
filth but I don't.
On the issue of buying Kirby's on Ebay, I have this to say. It is not illegal to buy a "used" Kirby
on Ebay. Many people that buy them soon sell them because they are worth a nice sum of money, even
used. If a dealer is caught selling New one's on Ebay, they are reprimanded by the company. And so
what if you don't have the warranty, for the cost of one new Kirby bought from a demo, you could
buy 2 or 3 Kirby's on Ebay or from local classifieds. I just don't see the warranty as any reason
to buy a new one. And Kirby's are ranked the most reliable vacuum on the market, so they shouldn't
need many repairs anyways. If you use the Kirby as intended and don't abuse it, it will last. But
all too often, people will try to vacuum up things that they shouldn't thus breaking the vacuum and
then they blame the vacuum. I think this is a common thing for Americans, they don't take
responsibility for any of their actions. Its never their fault. It's always the product or the
company that made the product's fault. I happen to own a Kirby G6 I got at a live auction for a lot
less than new, It runs like new but its over 6 years old.
Chad
You r all tuggers
Let Me tell you how Kirby sucks the Life out of you and your marriage. My husband started working
for Kirby. They promised him $400.00 per week plus commissions on what he sells. He was on a 50/50
split on sales $1250 and up. He worked from 8:30 am until 11-12 midnight.
They get you in and fill you full of B.S. making you think you are making all this money. Needless
to say, He was told payday was every friday. Friday came around and payday wasn't until the
following Friday.... This was continuous. They are full of sh.. My husband sold 3 Kirby's his first
week and did 22 in home demos. When he missed getting payed the first week, He was told that they
hold back a week. In the mean time our electricity had gotten turned off waiting for this so called
$1200 paycheck (which we never received) and now we are so behind, we might even loose our home. We
can not receive any kind of assistance because they are saying he has earned this amount of money,
but he has never been paid. Then when I confronted his boss, because she was trying to recruit me
under the same circumstances, the story changed to the $400 is garunteed if you do 15 demos and/or
you get commissions (not both) then she proceeded to tell us that even though he sold 3 kirby's
that week, he can not recieve a commission because they did not qualify for an (A) loan and they do
not get paid on anything but (A) loans. I asked her "Why do you leave the Kirby if you are not
getting paid for it?" She came up with, they replace the inventory. That to me is the same as
getting paid if they are replacing a $2000 vacuum. This is how Kirby will suck the life out of you
and your Marriage.
They will load your husband in a van and drive him 2 hours away and treat him like a slave and then
refuse to pay him, to were you can not put food on your table and pay your bills. When you ask about
the garunteed $400 for the demos, the response was " He didn't pull a full 100 pads, or the demo did
not last 3 hours so it was not counted"
I bet she made money on his sales. One lady even paid cash for her kirby. I guess cash is no good
compared to an (A) Loan.
I am warning anyone who gets sold on this bunch of B.S. " THEY WILL NOT PAY YOU AND THEY WILL MAKE
YOU BROKEN PROMISE AFTER BROKEN PROMISE! DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING THEY SAY!"
Sincerly,
Jen
Let Me tell you how Kirby sucks the Life out of you and your marriage. My husband started working
for Kirby. They promised him $400.00 per week plus commissions on what he sells. He was on a 50/50
split on sales $1250 and up. He worked from 8:30 am until 11-12 midnight.
They get you in and fill you full of B.S. making you think you are making all this money. Needless
to say, He was told payday was every friday. Friday came around and payday wasn't until the
following Friday.... This was continuous. They are full of sh.. My husband sold 3 Kirby's his first
week and did 22 in home demos. When he missed getting payed the first week, He was told that they
hold back a week. In the mean time our electricity had gotten turned off waiting for this so called
$1200 paycheck (which we never received) and now we are so behind, we might even loose our home. We
can not receive any kind of assistance because they are saying he has earned this amount of money,
but he has never been paid. Then when I confronted his boss, because she was trying to recruit me
under the same circumstances, the story changed to the $400 is garunteed if you do 15 demos and/or
you get commissions (not both) then she proceeded to tell us that even though he sold 3 kirby's
that week, he can not recieve a commission because they did not qualify for an (A) loan and they do
not get paid on anything but (A) loans. I asked her "Why do you leave the Kirby if you are not
getting paid for it?" She came up with, they replace the inventory. That to me is the same as
getting paid if they are replacing a $2000 vacuum. This is how Kirby will suck the life out of you
and your Marriage.
They will load your husband in a van and drive him 2 hours away and treat him like a slave and then
refuse to pay him, to were you can not put food on your table and pay your bills. When you ask about
the garunteed $400 for the demos, the response was " He didn't pull a full 100 pads, or the demo did
not last 3 hours so it was not counted"
I bet she made money on his sales. One lady even paid cash for her kirby. I guess cash is no good
compared to an (A) Loan.
I am warning anyone who gets sold on this bunch of B.S. " THEY WILL NOT PAY YOU AND THEY WILL MAKE
YOU BROKEN PROMISE AFTER BROKEN PROMISE! DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING THEY SAY!"
Sincerly,
Jen
i sell kirbys on ebay,have been for5 years new and used,kirby cant do anything about it,yes anything
over 499.00 for this monstosity is a rip off
I live in California, and you can walk into any vacuum/sewing machine shop (why do they put those
two together?) and buy a used Kirby for around $50. I own a Heritage 2. They always have several
used Kirbys for sale for under $100. Kirby might have swung a deal with eBay to keep Kirbys off
ebay, but there's absolutely nothing illegal about buying a used vacuum cleaner.
Also, I've taken my Heritage 2 (purchased used at a Vac&Sew shop) to a Kirby store/training facility
for service twice in ten years, and they've never asked anything about registration. They always
do, however, offer me a credit for my old Kirby if I want to buy a new one, and they have
refurbished ones for sale that people traded in.
I did have a Kirby salesguy show up and clean my livingroom carpet once. I think he wanted $3000
for the vacuum cleaner. When I kept saying "no way" the price kept coming down until it was less
than $1000, and I still said "no." Poor guy.
Note that First Sale doctrine means that you can't get in trouble for BUYING one from Ebay. But
sellers can get in trouble - the guy who wrote you was lying about his "friend." There's no way any
police department in this country is going to arrest a buyer to enforce a trade agreement.
Just the other day, I "let" the Kirby guy in to give his demo.
I let him suck up salt from the floor with his Kirby and my old vacuum ... I let him do the
"matress" demo too.
He "started" at $2500, eventually got down to $1750.
I "lowballed" him at $500 early in the discussion, and then again at the end.
Believe it or not, he TOOK my offer of $500 for the Kirby, acessories, and shampoo kit?
'Spose it was "hot?"
There is nothing illegal about selling or buying a kirby, or anything else ( with a few government
exceptions: Narcotics, weapons, National secrets, etc.) on ebay, your garage sale or anywhere else.
This is protected law under the UCC (First sale doctrine) True... you will not get the warranty
and other enticements, but it certainly is not illegal. The sale of STOLEN goods of course is
another matter. IF the goods are stolen then you can have the property seized and possibly be
fined.
But Kirby and no other USA company can infringe upon an individuals or a business' right to sell
its lawfully obtained goods in any way it sees fit.
Whoever says police showed up 24 hours after an Ebay purchase likely forgot that it was the crack
the police were looking for... not the Kirby, unless it was stolen.
So what you're saying is that I can't sell my Kirby or the person buying it will get fined or go to
jail. That's B.S. Get your facts straight.
maybe if you morons had brains you would know that kirbys are worth every bit of the money, unless
you like living in filth. The ones on ebay dont have a warranty there not worth it.
Funny. I used to work for Kirby, sold them for about a year. The hours were horrible, and I wanted
to go to school, but where I worked, near Chicago, it wasn't quite as bad as everyone makes it out
to be.
Honestly, it's a hell of a lot of money to pay for a friggin vacuum cleaner, and you do end up
feeling a bit like a used car salesman.
We just passed out flyers and took down phone numbers to generate "leads" stating that we were a
new business in the area, and giving away a free room of carpet shampooing. (not entirely false)
I suppose if you have a nice-looking, friendly, funny, and non-threatening, professional young guy
(like myself) doing the shampooing and demo for you, it makes quite a difference.
I sold a lot of new Kirby's to people that had a 15 or 20 year old Kirby that worked fine, but was
much heavier, and didn't have a lot of the new bells and whistles or the power assist (or whatever
it's called that makes pushing a 15 pound vacuum easy.)
I'd say overall, it's not a bad company, but it seems like there's a lot of branches out there run
by bad people who hire a bunch of thugs and pushers.
My parents had their Kirby stolen out of the car, and yeah, I bought another one on Ebay for 300
bucks. No police showed up at my house.
I don't understand something. How is it illegal for the owner of a Kirby to sell theirs on ebay?
They paid for the vacuum and they got title to it, so as long as the appropriate bill of sale is
issued to the purchaser, I don't see how the company can try to claim theft. The scenario above
would be akin to me getting arrested because someone bought my Dodge Ram pickup and then took it in
to a dealership for the 90k service maintenance.
We (in metropolitan Detroit) had a fellow and his blonde assistant come to the door this past
Friday. I was on the phone, and my husband (who's from NZ and doesn't know about Kirby) let them
in and gave them a look at a part of our carpet we'd been meaning to have cleaned. Luckily I
managed to catch his eye before they got too far and told him ixnay on the Irbykay, in no uncertain
terms. They were polite enough and left quickly enough when asked.
Now, these two were from Shy Enterprises in Ann Arbor, not Kirby proper. Some Googling revealed
that Mr. Shy is a licensed Kirby reseller who has been roping in naive students to flog overpriced
vacuums. I feel sorry for the salespeople, but I can't support Kirby.
If anything, I'd be horrified to find that I had married someone dumb enough to spend that kind of
money on a blasted vacuum cleaner.
so the question comes have you every seen a kirby because you say its way too much for a vacuum but
many many many people would strongly disagree such as the lady whom you reference in your kirby
story. she bought one. as well as the gentlemen who wrote into you who says he hates the company
but the product is worth it. How much do you think something that is a vacuum shampooer and has
attachments to clean virtually everything in the home and is built out of metal so it lasts on
average over 33 years should cost? good things arent cheap and cheap things arent good. you get
what you pay for. how long have they been in business? they must be doing something right. they
have a pretty favorable reputation for their product dont they?
"Yeah...it's illegal to buy a $1,700 vacuum unless it's from the distributors."
"it can be taken and felony theft charges brought against you because you can't prove ownership and
it is a machine that is worth 2,300.00"
As a criminal defense attorney these comments make me laugh.
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Stupid people don't buy kirbys.. the kirby will save you so much money and you won't be living in
dirt. I dont understand how people can live in that shit its gross! And causes health issues. And
1200$ is cheap for a kirby... when you never have to buy another vacuum or shampooer again in your
life plus u get to have the dirt out its worth it. People who don't buy it are stupid.
Another thing this guy tried on me tonight-
He took the pad that he got from our bed and said "Would you put your face on this? For $5?"
Being a broke college student, I said "Yes. Yes I would."
He proceeded to pull out $5 and told me if I did a faceplant into it I would get the money.
I did the deed and after a while in the interview, he told me "Oh yeah, 4/5 of the people who I paid
to do that got sick. My bad."
At least now I know if I get sick I can tell their company, if I can reach them, how dumb their
salesmen are.
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